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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Jul 3, 2009 4:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Legal?

It's not the major labels wanting you to pay up royalties to the artists, but rather the artists' publishing and performance rights groups, ASCAP & BMI for example. Depending on the venue or method of playback (jukebox, Muzak, phone call waiting music, on an airplane) determines the type and cost of license needed to be purchased. These artists' groups use both forms filled out by license holders and sophisticated listening devices to determine what songs are being played and how often each month in order to pay out the royalty checks to the original composer/publisher. It is necessary in many cases to buy a separate license for both ASCAP and BMI, in order to ensure every song you wish to play or perform is covered.

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Jul 3, 2009 5:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Legal?

Then there's the infamous lawsuit brought by ASCAP against The Girl Scouts a dozen years ago. The Girl Scouts were being sued by ASCAP for copyright infringement everytime they sat around the campfire and sang Irvin Berlin's "God Bless America."

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Poster: fireeagle Date: Jul 3, 2009 5:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Legal?

something is terribly wrong in the us of a

i would call the girl scout thing ridiculous, if it wasnt so horrifyingly idiotic

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Jul 3, 2009 5:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Legal?

Right on Red. We also had to join a musicians union to play cover songs in a bar, and the bar had to pay BMI or ASCAP or RIAA a fee for having live "non original" music. This was in addition to their split on the jukebox with the organized crime guys that dealt with whatever association received the royalty dollars on those machines.

I'm still curious as to how the money ever finds it's way back to the artist? I'm guessing it would have to be by an incredibly sophisticated ranking process, but do not know.

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Poster: The Other One The Middle One Date: Jul 6, 2009 11:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Legal?

My wife's BBQ restaurant got strong-armed by ASCAP. They said that since the TVs ran commercials with songs in them that the restaurant was "broadcasting" and had to buy a license. I would have thought that the cable provider would take of this cost on the front end but it was not so.


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